"99.5% WILL FAIL.." - SAM

[NuUzr]

Good listen, Dave and Cody! The discussion has a lot of layers to it..

* Primary reason SAM/Cody sticks with Telesales?
- He doesn't like to drive.. (2:35)

*First Call Center month(with four guys) they made 9 total sales.." (6:30)
*You need A LOT more leads - It takes a lot more time-ALOT!(11:30-11:45)
*99.5% of telesales reps will fail.."(12:13) SAM
*You need a two player model - one person to qualify another to close.." SAM
*Production; 80-100 policies per month. - "Someday if I(Call Center) can write 1-5K per mo -- great.." (20:15)
*2 openers$8hr + small bonus(21:00)
*4 closers(Hrly plus 'small' com or straight com).." (21:15)


Is Dave going to open a call center with Cody?

* Cody/Dave NEVER let door knockers in their home.
*Growing trend in FE toward digital leads(hot off the press)..(33:40)
* Duford's leaning toward favoring digital leads (34:25)
* 'Mildred' has 6-8 DM cards - saturated with reps - can not get an affordable price in certain areas Dave(37:05)

When Cody/SAM was discussing the pay structure, he had a very dismissive look toward the amount of money he's paying his 'openers' and to a lesser extent his closers. My main take away is what JD has been saying all along - the OWNERS of Telesales Call Centers ultimately are the winners who make the big $$$..

There is a trend with reps growing more and more dissatisfied with lead cost, over saturation with agents and how to shift with the times and somehow capitalize on the digital world.

99.5% will fail in Telesales. (SAM)

Without a two pronged approached probably 99.999999999999999999%(Me 1:23pm )

What do you think - is it getting disheartening going to homes where you know they have 6-8 other mailers within the same month?

 

[DayTimer]

My main take away is what JD has been saying all along - the OWNERS of Telesales Call Centers ultimately are the winners who make the big $$$.

jd didn't tell you the whole story. It is like any industry. Yes, some owners will make big $$$. But others will end up on welfare. And then there are the elite few who will both make big money and also collect welfare

 

[Thedude]

jd didn't tell you the whole story. It is like any industry. Yes, some owners will make big $$$. But others will end up on welfare. And then there are the elite few who will both make big money and also collect welfare

Lol that's good

 

[DayTimer]

Lol that's good

All kidding aside, I do feel genuinely bad for jd and newby. I think it is clear from their responses to the now locked TT thread that they really were, more than likely, unaware of the issue. jd may be a bit of a forum bully, but he deserved better than that from his upline, especially given how unflinchingly loyal jd has been. Newby seems to be a good guy. I feel bad for him as well - he should have been made aware of this before someone posted it to the forum.

 

[HoosierLife]

jd didn't tell you the whole story. It is like any industry. Yes, some owners will make big $$$. But others will end up on welfare. And then there are the elite few who will both make big money and also collect welfare

We all see what you did there!

 

[FinalExpenseDojo.com]

If all call center owners make the big $$$ then I'm sure everyone would do it.

Just like JD says the uplines are the ones making big bucks off the backs of agents... but then he doesn't recruit on the forums...

 

[DayTimer]

We all see what you did there!

I wasn't aiming for subtlety, to be fair. And it was such an obvious ... well ... I just couldn't resist

 

[rousemark]

All kidding aside, I do feel genuinely bad for jd and newby. I think it is clear from their responses to the now locked TT thread that they really were, more than likely, unaware of the issue. jd may be a bit of a forum bully, but he deserved better than that from his upline, especially given how unflinchingly loyal jd has been. Newby seems to be a good guy. I feel bad for him as well - he should have been made aware of this before someone posted it to the forum.

I don't know if JD or Scott knew about it before it was posted on the forum or not but you would think they might have. But, before everybody goes off pointing fingers, keep in mind that TT was not charged with anything. He may be completely innocent and had no knowledge of what his ex wife is alleged to have done.

 

[DayTimer]

I don't know if JD or Scott knew about it before it was posted on the forum or not but you would think they might have. But, before everybody goes off pointing fingers, keep in mind that TT was not charged with anything. He may be completely innocent and had no knowledge of what his ex wife is alleged to have done.

From what the news report says, that is not his ex-wife, but his current wife with whom he resides. He may still not have known.

 

[rousemark]

From what the news report says, that is not his ex-wife, but his current wife with whom he resides. He may still not have known. However, things his actual ex-wife has been saying about this on Facebook could be construed as implying otherwise. At any rate, I still feel that jd and Newby were caught blind-sided and flat-footed by this. But in either case, I feel bad for anyone associated with FEX right now. Whether TT knew or not, this is not a comfortable place for any licensed agent to be.

Yeah.. I see now it indicates they are currently married.. And, I am not saying that Scott and JD had any knowledge about it prior to her arrest but I would think they heard about it soon after and before it was posted on the forum.. At least I hope they did. Hearing of a good friend's problems for the first time on an open forum would be a very uncomfortable situation.