Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appeal?

[VolAgent]

Re: Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appea

I think it depends on whether you served your full sentence, or were released on probation or parole.

Unless the party in question has a clear and compelling reason to know, I think most employers should be restricted to asking, "Are you currently charged with a felony, are you currently on probation for a felony, or are you on parole for a felony?"

 

[669comche]

Re: Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appea

I think its all rather absurd now this whole situation.

The past is the past. If someone has made a mistake in the past, completed their punishment it should not be erroneously held against you.

The problem these days is that everyone wants to credit check/criminal background check you, even in situations when its not warranted.

 

[Larry Tew]

Re: Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appea

We're talking about a felony here, not jay-walking. I propose forgiveness and restoration wherever possible, but sometimes you do something and the consequences are hard. Not every offense comes with an "easy" button or do-over.

 

[thall]

Re: Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appea

I don't care what you say. This is not 1960, expungment, erasure, do it over, whatever you want to call it. It's up there in cyberspace somewhere. There's a record of there not being a record somewhere. Easier to explain than be accused of lying.

 

[669comche]

Re: Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appea

We're talking about a felony here, not jay-walking. I propose forgiveness and restoration wherever possible, but sometimes you do something and the consequences are hard. Not every offense comes with an "easy" button or do-over.

If they have done their time then yes, it should be forgiven.

I am not saying that their should not be records etc. Its the way those records are being used that I have issue with.

Why do I need to have a credit/criminal background check to flip burgers?

The simple answer is you don't. Both those things have nothing to do with my ability to do the job.

And with the credit issue It should be ILLEGAL for anyone to use your credit against you for any purpose other than determining whether to extend credit to you.

 

[VolAgent]

Re: Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appea

And with the credit issue It should be ILLEGAL for anyone to use your credit against you for any purpose other than determining whether to extend credit to you.

I completely disagree with that. People who are deeply in debt are more likely to commit some form of theft. I have no problem with reviewing crimes of a financial nature or credit if the job involves handling money or monetary instrument.

 

[669comche]

Re: Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appea

No they are not.

Thats a sweeping generalization and that is the very reason that it should be illegal. Just because someone has hit hard times does not mean they will steal. People that have committed financial crimes, sure no problem. That should be considered.

Credit monitoring and the credit bureaus were set up for institutions to determine your eligibility in extending credit to you.

It should not be used in determining whether you are able to perform the requirements of a job.

 

[VolAgent]

Re: Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appea

No they are not.

Thats a sweeping generalization and that is the very reason that it should be illegal. Just because someone has hit hard times does not mean they will steal. People that have committed financial crimes, sure no problem. That should be considered.

Credit monitoring and the credit bureaus were set up for institutions to determine your eligibility in extending credit to you.

It should not be used in determining whether you are able to perform the requirements of a job.

I said more likely. More likely does not mean they will, it just means there is a greater likelihood. Just as a cloudy day means it is more likely to rain than a clear day. It doesn't mean it will rain, but the odds are definitely greater.

No one factor should be the sole decider of whether or not to hire someone. However, some crimes legally bar you from certain professions.

 

[djs]

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There are a lot of individuals with criminal records that were one time oopses, or at least, for a short period of their life. They have changed and have moved on. I get that. We've all done things in the past that we wish we could go back and change, whether illegal or not.

Problem is, in the insurance world, you are dealing with someone elses personal information. There is a risk here. If 1 out of 500 with a prior felony conviction does something intentionally wrong, it gets reported as the insurance world allows convicted felons to have access to all this info. Of course, the other 499 did nothing wrong. 1 out of 500 agents without felony convictions may have done something wrong as well. Unfortunately, its a matter of appearances when the media gets hold of it.

Flipping burgers does not deal with much personal information, except for the fact you like extra mayo on your double-double.

Dan

 

[669comche]

Re: Appointment Denied Due to Background- is There a Way to Appea

Correct, but the flipping burgers still requires a background/credit check.

Why?