Postage going up another 7.4%. Legitimate dm has a few yrs left

[GMDM100k]

This was an interesting read. It reminds me of this time me and my buddies went to a strip club when I first got married. My wife knew I had went.

When I got home she asked me what I was doing.

I was working with Jesse and Phil…

Oh. What took so long.

We stopped and had a few drinks. Talked about work…

Where did you guys stop?

Carmichael..

You spent 500 dollars how much did you drink?

Not much. We ate too…

What restaurant.

Centerfolds..

Oh. I've never heard of that restaurant.

Yeah. You wouldn't like it. It's dark has a bunch of goofy shit on the walls.

Over and over this went on. her asking the same questions me giving the same answers.

Finally she looked me right in my eyes and said.. you went to a strip club. I want to hear it come out of your dirty f****** mouth you liar!

Ummm yeah I did. That's what centerfolds is. If you don't know you don't know I guess

 

[GMDM100k]

I think what some people are misunderstanding is that JD never said he took 10 fresh leads that he had just gotten. Sat down and called all of them and 7 picked up and he got 6 appointments.

He said he's taken 15 leads a week for 17 years and sets about 12 appointments.

That seems logical to me. If you have been in the business writing 300k plus every year and consistently taken 60 leads a month you can certainly get 6 appointments set the next day by calling for 90 mins. He has plenty of leads and referrals to call on. And probably plenty of people calling him consistently.

There is no secret. He's not getting more people to pick up the phone than anyone else. But he's not lying.

Obviously there is some different thoughts on how qualified an appointment is or how vague someone might be on the phone.

But logic tells me that they are not qualified appointments. Why would you take the time to qualify them and then book an appointment. If you got that far into a presentation you might as well just do an e app and voice signature. So obviously they're vague on the phone.

And I imagine a lot of appointments are no shows.

Nothing on this thread is new info.

What I have noticed is that the forum has changed. It has always been a recruiting forum but there still used to be people sharing good information.

Phone scripts. Appointment scripts. What they say for various objections. Sales presentations. Daily activity.

now its all if I told you my special sales secrets I'd have to kill you bs. It wasn't like that before no matter what anyone says.

It used to be a good place for a new agent to get good information or stay up to date on the market.

It just plain sucks now. And this thread proves exactly why this forum sucks for new and old agents alike.

if you're a new agent reading this. No one cares about you unless you work with them. No one will help you. And as soon as you don't work with them anymore you're dead to them. That goes for agents, agencies, clients. And most importantly carriers.

The worst thing you're doing as a new agent is looking this forum.

 

[noah]

This forum has become a social media platform for weak men in poor mental health who need to beat their chests,argue,gaslight,name call,put the other guy down.

It's the only way for them to feel good.

What a shame. I feel sorry for them.

It's an outlet for men who have no life,emasculated at home,living the life no more than a beast of burden with plenty of time to kill.

 

[LostDollar]

I think what some people are misunderstanding is that JD never said he took 10 fresh leads that he had just gotten. Sat down and called all of them and 7 picked up and he got 6 appointments.

He said he's taken 15 leads a week for 17 years and sets about 12 appointments.

That seems logical to me. If you have been in the business writing 300k plus every year and consistently taken 60 leads a month you can certainly get 6 appointments set the next day by calling for 90 mins. He has plenty of leads and referrals to call on. And probably plenty of people calling him consistently.

There is no secret. He's not getting more people to pick up the phone than anyone else. But he's not lying.

Obviously there is some different thoughts on how qualified an appointment is or how vague someone might be on the phone.

But logic tells me that they are not qualified appointments. Why would you take the time to qualify them and then book an appointment. If you got that far into a presentation you might as well just do an e app and voice signature. So obviously they're vague on the phone.

And I imagine a lot of appointments are no shows.

Nothing on this thread is new info.

What I have noticed is that the forum has changed. It has always been a recruiting forum but there still used to be people sharing good information.

Phone scripts. Appointment scripts. What they say for various objections. Sales presentations. Daily activity.

now its all if I told you my special sales secrets I'd have to kill you bs. It wasn't like that before no matter what anyone says.

It used to be a good place for a new agent to get good information or stay up to date on the market.

It just plain sucks now. And this thread proves exactly why this forum sucks for new and old agents alike.

if you're a new agent reading this. No one cares about you unless you work with them. No one will help you. And as soon as you don't work with them anymore you're dead to them. That goes for agents, agencies, clients. And most importantly carriers.

The worst thing you're doing as a new agent is looking this forum.

Caveat, not an agent.

I disagree with the idea that the site is no longer useful to new agents.

The old information you referenced is still on the site (as far as I know).

I can't speak specifically to FE, but I do see information being offered and exchanged in other areas.

 

[jdeasy]

Well, after reading some of this I had to go back and see if my posts were taken down. Seems to be fine. Of course, I wasn't the one using veiled threats. Very interesting to say the least.

Last word!

Now like that!!

Run tell again.

This forum has become a social media platform for weak men in poor mental health who need to beat their chests,argue,gaslight,name call,put the other guy down.

It's the only way for them to feel good.

What a shame. I feel sorry for them.

It's an outlet for men who have no life,emasculated at home,living the life no more than a beast of burden with plenty of time to kill.

You did a very good job of describing yourself.

 

[jdeasy]

I think what some people are misunderstanding is that JD never said he took 10 fresh leads that he had just gotten. Sat down and called all of them and 7 picked up and he got 6 appointments.

He said he's taken 15 leads a week for 17 years and sets about 12 appointments.

That seems logical to me. If you have been in the business writing 300k plus every year and consistently taken 60 leads a month you can certainly get 6 appointments set the next day by calling for 90 mins. He has plenty of leads and referrals to call on. And probably plenty of people calling him consistently.

There is no secret. He's not getting more people to pick up the phone than anyone else. But he's not lying.

Obviously there is some different thoughts on how qualified an appointment is or how vague someone might be on the phone.

But logic tells me that they are not qualified appointments. Why would you take the time to qualify them and then book an appointment. If you got that far into a presentation you might as well just do an e app and voice signature. So obviously they're vague on the phone.

And I imagine a lot of appointments are no shows.

Nothing on this thread is new info.

What I have noticed is that the forum has changed. It has always been a recruiting forum but there still used to be people sharing good information.

Phone scripts. Appointment scripts. What they say for various objections. Sales presentations. Daily activity.

now its all if I told you my special sales secrets I'd have to kill you bs. It wasn't like that before no matter what anyone says.

It used to be a good place for a new agent to get good information or stay up to date on the market.

It just plain sucks now. And this thread proves exactly why this forum sucks for new and old agents alike.

if you're a new agent reading this. No one cares about you unless you work with them. No one will help you. And as soon as you don't work with them anymore you're dead to them. That goes for agents, agencies, clients. And most importantly carriers.

The worst thing you're doing as a new agent is looking this forum.

That's true. And it's mostly because almost no producers post here. Years ago there were many.


You can count the FE producers that post here regularly on one hand and have finders left.

Most of posters in the FE forum don't even sell life insurance, much less FE.

Some that post in this forum have never even written one FE application.

Bucket dippers can only last so long if there are no bucket fillers.

 

[Todd King]

Some people just always feel better when they put others down.

Glad you feel better now.

 

[Jccwell]

I think what some people are misunderstanding is that JD never said he took 10 fresh leads that he had just gotten. Sat down and called all of them and 7 picked up and he got 6 appointments.

He said he's taken 15 leads a week for 17 years and sets about 12 appointments.

That seems logical to me. If you have been in the business writing 300k plus every year and consistently taken 60 leads a month you can certainly get 6 appointments set the next day by calling for 90 mins. He has plenty of leads and referrals to call on. And probably plenty of people calling him consistently.

There is no secret. He's not getting more people to pick up the phone than anyone else. But he's not lying.

Obviously there is some different thoughts on how qualified an appointment is or how vague someone might be on the phone.

But logic tells me that they are not qualified appointments. Why would you take the time to qualify them and then book an appointment. If you got that far into a presentation you might as well just do an e app and voice signature. So obviously they're vague on the phone.

And I imagine a lot of appointments are no shows.

Nothing on this thread is new info.

What I have noticed is that the forum has changed. It has always been a recruiting forum but there still used to be people sharing good information.

Phone scripts. Appointment scripts. What they say for various objections. Sales presentations. Daily activity.

now its all if I told you my special sales secrets I'd have to kill you bs. It wasn't like that before no matter what anyone says.

Well said.

 

[rmhaire]

This forum has become a social media platform for weak men in poor mental health who need to beat their chests,argue,gaslight,name call,put the other guy down.

It's the only way for them to feel good.

What a shame. I feel sorry for them.

It's an outlet for men who have no life,emasculated at home,living the life no more than a beast of burden with plenty of time to kill.

I miss the old days. Back then, if you had a beef you would just go outside and settle it.

Maybe that's why I still have a charge account with a bail bondsman.

 

[WinoBlues]

Secret sauce = See the people.
Updated = See or call the people.