To Securus or Not to Securus? That is the Question.

[jdeasy]

Not really enough information to make a recommendation.

Sounds like the local deal is better. Securus has built up quite a large number of agents in a relatively short time.

I do know of some very successful agents with EFES that went to Securus and they went mainly for the recruiting opportunities down the line. If that is your goal then Securus would probably be a good fit.

Talk to Tim W at Securus before signing anything.

Of course if you are in New York then it's a whole different discussion.

 

[GAInsuranceGal]

Thanks jdeasy for the follow up. I don't know what happened; I posted 2 responses and not one of them was posted. After I hit the "Submit Reply" button I got a pop up message that said I have to wait for an administrator to review it, but nothing has posted. Do you know why?

I am originally from New York, but live in the Atlanta area now. (Since 1991.)

I decided to go with the local IMO. He has everything that Securus offers (free accidental insurance to gain leads, UHL, American Amicable, etc.) and more (i.e local one on one training and great marketing ideas), so decided to go with him.

 

[GAInsuranceGal]

Thanks jdeasy for the follow up. I have tried and tried to post a reply, but every time I hit the "Submit Reply" button, I get a message that states I have to wait for an administrator to approve. This has been going on for about a week. Do you know why?

I am originally (born and raised) from New York and now live in the Atlanta area. (Since 1991.)

I decided to go with the local IMO. I based it on having more hands on training and his great marketing ideas. I think he is an insurance genius. I was also afraid of getting into another NAA situation with Securus. They are growing so fast and a few of NAA managers have gone over to Securus. I am afraid that eventually it will be another NAA setup in the future.

 

[GAInsuranceGal]

I am so confused right now to a point that I have created a conundrum for myself.

I signed up with the local IMO (100-125% split), but now considering signing up with 1 or 2 carriers through Securus (only 65% split). The reason I am considering Securus is because I want leads until I can gain a consistent way of drawing my own leads. But that's what drew me to NAA and now I see that may not have been the best option. And if I decide to leave, I will not be able to do business with those 1 or 2 carriers.

I also like Securus' training which is more detailed, which is good for a newbie like myself (4 months old insurance baby. )

I am so confused right now that I don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

 

[jdeasy]

I am so confused right now to a point that I have created a conundrum for myself.

I signed up with the local IMO (100-125% split), but now considering signing up with 1 or 2 carriers through Securus (only 65% split). The reason I am considering Securus is because I want leads until I can gain a consistent way of drawing my own leads. But that's what drew me to NAA and now I see that may not have been the best option. And if I decide to leave, I will not be able to do business with those 1 or 2 carriers.

I also like Securus' training which is more detailed, which is good for a newbie like myself (4 months old insurance baby. )

I am so confused right now that I don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

You have learned a valuable lesson about this business. 120% contracts are useless with no one to sell to.

While you certainly should be able to get higher than 65% with leads it is still better to have 65% of something than 120% of nothing.

I started at 65% in this business. I know now that was low but I didn't know it was low then. Still, it was more than I was worth as I didn't know anything. The training was excellent as were the leads. I quickly moved up in commission as I produced and learned.

If you want to do FE you need to get with an IMO like Securus or EFES that offers leads and training and give that IMO your best shot. Looking for an exit strategy before you start is not giving them your best shot.

 

[GAInsuranceGal]

You have learned a valuable lesson about this business. 120% contracts are useless with no one to sell to.

While you certainly should be able to get higher than 65% with leads it is still better to have 65% of something than 120% of nothing.

I started at 65% in this business. I know now that was low but I didn't know it was low then. Still, it was more than I was worth as I didn't know anything. The training was excellent as were the leads. I quickly moved up in commission as I produced and learned.

If you want to do FE you need to get with an IMO like Securus or EFES that offers leads and training and give that IMO your best shot. Looking for an exit strategy before you start is not giving them your best shot.

Thanks jdeasy for the advice. I agree; looking for an exit strategy is not the best way to get started with a company.

I am trying not to make the same mistake twice. I guess I should not focus on that.

 

[SKQuinn]

I just got a call from Securus today and spoke with a Cliff Johnson. They are mostly Monumental and UHL. You can build an agency with them and your commission % will go up with production, as it should be. They are starting me at 90%, and if I bring in other agents their commission would be 80-85%. So if I were to go up to 100-110-120%, I'd move my producing agents up too! I like the price of their leads as compared to Asurea. Still doing my due diligence in research. That's for the tip Jdeasy! You da man!!!

 

[drbobw]

Dear Ga Insurance Gal.
I am an agent in Georgia, and would like some info on the imo you are talking about and the leads.
please contact me at 678-923-9593.
Thanks
Bob

 

[Newby]

I just got a call from Securus today and spoke with a Cliff Johnson. They are mostly Monumental and UHL. You can build an agency with them and your commission % will go up with production, as it should be. They are starting me at 90%, and if I bring in other agents their commission would be 80-85%. So if I were to go up to 100-110-120%, I'd move my producing agents up too! I like the price of their leads as compared to Asurea. Still doing my due diligence in research. That's for the tip Jdeasy! You da man!!!

Make absolutely certain to get a signed written release agreement if you sign with Securus. They are the WORST FMO in the business about just wanting to screw with you when you want to leave them.

If you really want to use a model like that, I would go with Equita. How many more agents and managers do you need abandoning Securus before you have your doubts?

 

[bigjake]

Dr. Bob and Insurance Gal:

What part of GA? There is a company near Atlanta and one in Atlanta I was curious about if either or both of you are near there....One almost sounds too good to be true, dont want to mention names on here. I cannot find any complaints on file or ripoff report (everybody winds up on ripoff, lol), or the net period. Let me know when you see this. thanks