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[Josh]

A few things:

My "opinions" about how you post are actually just pointing to the actual rules of the gentleman that owns the forum, not my own version.

Let's go back to the issue of you being a liar. There are actual examples of you telling lies which prevents it from being slanderous, but since you asked for an example I'll point to the same example I've been using.

I edited a post due to a spelling error and to clarify a price. My 2.5 cents price point does NOT have to include print.

Was this the spelling error?

I am currently running at $40 per 1,000 in case you need any more data. Also, if I am also doing your print I can go as low as $20-30 per 1,000 (on the data side) depending on your volume. If anyone is interested in counts for their area and a price break down for that count (with and with out print) let me know....you can view your filters here...

You don't think that changing the content of your post and then claiming it was a "spelling error" in an effort to look better is a lie?

I'm going to presume that since you asked for an example of you lying before and I presented this and you didn't respond any of the other times that you're willing to concede that you are, in fact, a person who will lie in an attempt to get business. There are more examples, but you only asked for one, so we'll stick with that.


So Raymond, I guess with that we'll be done beating this horse to death?

 

[Ramond B]

Oh Lord....Are you really only reading part of that sentence and then creating your own lie out of it?... read it again...this time pay attn to the BOLD print!

"I edited a post due to a spelling error and to clarify a price. My 2.5 cents price point does NOT have to include print."

2.5 cents does NOT have to include print...where in that is a lie? As for pricing and the ability to change it...who cares. I can go back and edit all my pricing on every thread ever...that doesn't make me a liar. I stated to you that I did edit the thread to fix a spelling error AND to clarify (edit) my price. What about that is so hard to understand? I'm starting to think you have a couple screws loose..

"...if I am also doing your print I can go as low as $20-30 per 1,000"

Now this was actually supposed to say "If I am doing your print I can go as low as $10-20 per $1,000" so thank you for pointing that out...ill go back and fix it.

Thanks again for bringing that typo to my attention, however a type doesn't make me a liar Josh, neither does changing one's price.... I am free to change whatever price I want to....just one of The benefits of owning the database license.

We don't need to rehash price though Josh, we all know that price is only half the battle (in which I have clearly shown you can't win). Fact is this.....Freshness of data, length of time in the industry, and the marketing capacity of the person an agent is dealing with often overcomes price. In the end these agents will decide for themselves who might be better to work with long term (if either of us) because of our over all capabilities, not because of something you or I say to each other.

So Raymond, I guess with that we'll be done beating this horse to death?

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Josh, here you go for the record, I did fix that pricing typo for you....that way you don't get confused again....

Good luck...

Also, if I am also doing your print I can go as low as $10-20 per 1,000 (on the data side) depending on your volume. If anyone is interested in counts for their area and a price break down for that count (with and with out print) let me know....you can view your filters here...

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[Josh]

 

[Jim Jenkins]

After reading this, should I drink or smoke?

 

[GreenSky]

After reading this, should I drink or smoke?

Perhaps sticking a fork in your eyes would help.

Rick

 

[TritusInsurance]

If anything I would buy an email list because direct mail is expensive and over rated. Direct you can expect a response rate about .03-.05% in populated areas and a slightly better in rural areas.

It's best to create an "inbound marketing" campaign to let customers/clients find you, thus building your own list that will have a much great response equating to greater ROI. It'll take a bit longer but well worth the time/effort.

T

 

[Pangaea]

If anything I would buy an email list because direct mail is expensive and over rated. Direct you can expect a response rate about .03-.05% in populated areas and a slightly better in rural areas.

It's best to create an "inbound marketing" campaign to let customers/clients find you, thus building your own list that will have a much great response equating to greater ROI. It'll take a bit longer but well worth the time/effort.

T

In another niche (appliance repair) we've seen around a 2-5% response rate for direct mail.

I've never done direct mail for Insurance, but I can't imagine it being so low. What lines of insurance and how targeted were your lists?

 

[Frank Stastny]

In another niche (appliance repair) we've seen around a 2-5% response rate for direct mail.

I've never done direct mail for Insurance, but I can't imagine it being so low. What lines of insurance and how targeted were your lists?

I suggest you "give it a go". Age 67 to 78, incomes $15,000 and above. Nothing else is necessary. Send out 4,000 for Med Supps, not MA Plans and if you get a 5% return let me know. No other criteria is necessary.

Four thousand is a relatively small sample but it will give you a general idea. That may get you 200 responses and then offer them here to Med Supp agents at $8.00 each. That will give you your cost of mailing back. Let agents try them out and if they are "good" then you have a new market.

Price future "leads" to make a profit. I wouldn't be interested in them though.

 

[GreenSky]

I used to mail to 70-76, $25-60K income.

This was at a time when Blue Cross of CA used 5 yr age banding and unisex rates. The cost for plan F in Los Angeles increased from $145 to $209 when the person became 70.

United World and later Lincoln Heritage wrote the same plan for woman at around $150-160. I would get a 5-6% return on my direct mail using the line "Many plans have recently increased the premiums. Let us help you find the exact same coverage at a much lower price."

Alas, the socialists in CA have outlawed gender based rates which f*cked things up for everyone including the public. Now Blue Cross is generally the lowest priced and most popular company. Would be a waste of time to advertise now.

Rick

 

[PostcardMania]

I know many buy lists. I remember a few guys mentioning some of the better list people.. can you tell me who they are? thanks

Hi Supersupps - I work with PostcardMania, we're a direct mail marketing company and also one the forum sponsors here. If you're still looking to get a targeted mailing list, that's one of the services we offer.

What type of insurance do you specialize in? Homeowners, auto, health, etc.? Depending on your specialty, we can create a list to hone in on your exact target market - which will get you the best response.

If you'd like to see some examples of the types of lists other insurance professionals are using, there's a link within my signature below to a free report which has several successful campaign results - including info on who they mailed to.