Postage going up another 7.4%. Legitimate dm has a few yrs left

[DonP]

I usually save everything too. This one I had heard from a mutual friend would go back to fight over a dollar. And since those policies I replaced were a few yrs old, he almost certainly rewrote them elsewhere and got paid again.

I had a case in AZ a few yrs ago where the lady called the company after 3.5 yrs to cancel. I called her and the number was NIS. I DK'ed their trailer and it was vacant. I wrote it off. A few weeks later she called me in a panic, said some agent told her she had to surrender her policy or she'd lose her food stamps. So she did and she cashed the surrender check. Other agent ghosted her, probably because he couldn't get her approved anywhere. I asked where she had moved and she said Indiana. I said, "Well, today's your lucky day." We made an appt to talk two days later when were weren't both driving. By then she was in the hospital and missed our phone appt. I was able to write her with another carrier, but she died six mos in and that claim has been in process for five mos. now. Other agent obviously didn't do a replacement form and she didn't know how to track him down.

Your mutual friend told your right . The dude's an animal and yes like any smart agent you rewrite that sucker for new comp.A few weeks ago i had an agent try to replace a 5 yr old am am with a 2 times higher premium .Client called me crying . He had already cashed it in. Went out and 30 day free looked it and rewrote her new plan. Aren't you with fex? Why no run the $10 check lead in Az ? It's getting 3% plus .

 

[Todd King]

I can answer that one. They run recycled old previously worked leads. Yes, they mix a few new ones in with the old ones. Just to keep the agents guessing which is which. But they mostly run used leads.

All agencies that sell their agents used leads tell them to not call them to set appointments.

Your question is like saying, if if linen napkins are better than paper napkins, why doesn't McDonalds, Wendy's and Burger King use linen? Obviously they are the big players and would use them if they are better.

So you're going to stand by and support the comment that your agents are taught and succeed in making at least 7 out of 10 appointments off of lead cards and that they do it on a consistent basis? Even in the days when less and less people answer their phones?

Now it has not been said that most of your agents do that, but even a few? And do you stand by JD when he says he does that and has done it for years on end? Really?

 

[jdeasy]

So you're going to stand by and support the comment that your agents are taught and succeed in making at least 7 out of 10 appointments off of lead cards and that they do it on a consistent basis? Even in the days when less and less people answer their phones?

Now it has not been said that most of your agents do that, but even a few? And do you stand by JD when he says he does that and has done it for years on end? Really?

Yes. He is going to stand on the truth.

The provable truth.

And if you want to discuss my truthfulness we can meet up face to face and have that discussion.

 

[DonP]

So you're going to stand by and support the comment that your agents are taught and succeed in making at least 7 out of 10 appointments off of lead cards and that they do it on a consistent basis? Even in the days when less and less people answer their phones?

Now it has not been said that most of your agents do that, but even a few? And do you stand by JD when he says he does that and has done it for years on end? Really?

It's called pixie dust . The Jd bat phone . Todd so basically Newby is saying that fex agents have different powers than all other agents . They have the ability to get people to answer the phone when 100k other fe agents all agree the # of people answering the phone is down 50% from 5-7 yrs ago. But Jd says it's training . None of us are trained right . Lmao And as we all saw on the letter from Kskj that i think Rouse posted Kskj said they termed their contract for persistency . But yet again fex agents poo poo ss billing and they never had any issues with persistency. We always talk about kollaide drinking outfits like Lincoln, Ffl ,orca etc . It seems we left one out

 

[noah]

JD this would be a great time to learn something new from you. Other than double or triple dialing the phone numbers, how do you get 70% to pick up the phone? Is it 70% on the first triple dial, or on subsequent dials because you left a message previously? Is caller ID involved? Please share with us all u here.

Hey Greg,how come JD did not respond to you here ? You made a very polite request here. He usually likes to jump on you like white on rice .

 

[theinsuranceman]

It's called pixie dust . The Jd bat phone . Todd so basically Newby is saying that fex agents have different powers than all other agents . They have the ability to get people to answer the phone when 100k other fe agents all agree the # of people answering the phone is down 50% from 5-7 yrs ago. But Jd says it's training . None of us are trained right . Lmao And as we all saw on the letter from Kskj that i think Rouse posted Kskj said they termed their contract for persistency . But yet again fex agents poo poo ss billing and they never had any issues with persistency. We always talk about kollaide drinking outfits like Lincoln, Ffl ,orca etc . It seems we left one out

That's the part I don't understand. How much training does it take to dial a phone #?

 

[theinsuranceman]

JD since you avoided my question in post #60 above let me ask you again:

Other than double or triple dialing the phone numbers, how do you get 70% to pick up the phone? Is it 70% on the first triple dial, or on subsequent triple dials, because you left a message previously, or because you called each phone # 10+ times per day? Is caller ID involved? Please share with us all up here.

 

[theinsuranceman]

Hey Greg,how come JD did not respond to you here ? You made a very polite request here. He usually likes to jump on you like white on rice .

Because he can't answer the question? Or maybe that's his recruiter talk? I just don't know

 

[rousemark]

It's called pixie dust . The Jd bat phone . Todd so basically Newby is saying that fex agents have different powers than all other agents . They have the ability to get people to answer the phone when 100k other fe agents all agree the # of people answering the phone is down 50% from 5-7 yrs ago. But Jd says it's training . None of us are trained right . Lmao And as we all saw on the letter from Kskj that i think Rouse posted Kskj said they termed their contract for persistency . But yet again fex agents poo poo ss billing and they never had any issues with persistency. We always talk about kollaide drinking outfits like Lincoln, Ffl ,orca etc . It seems we left one out

Don't think that was me. I knew the contract was cancelled but not why. I did see someone posted it but I don't remeber who.

 

[Rick Lee]

KSKJ claimed it was due to low persistency, but that's the opposite of what they always touted on their convention trips. Obviously, the persistency cratered once they termed us, as they stopped providing commission statements for several weeks or months (I forget how long), so no one could see who was missing payments or falling off their books. Lots of those customers called their agents instead of KSKJ when they got letters or bills in the mail. And (wild guess here) they got rewritten elsewhere if they were healthy, and were helped to get current with KSKJ if they couldn't be rewritten elsewhere. In short, KSKJ lost a lot of healthy customers and kept a lot of unhealthy ones.