Terminated from Foresters for Persistency

[Crazytiger]

So I am only successful if I write 10's of millions per year?


Not true and "you can't handle the truth" hehe.

Honestly you and 99.99% of agents can't do it cuz it's a grind for 8 hours per day.

Your in the phone giving it your A game 6.5 hours per day 5 days a week. No field agent does that.

Field sales you have massive amounts of down time, like driving to each appointment.

I was being serious. Y'all (you and other call center operators) do write tens of millions of ap every year with your call centers. It sounds like you write between $1.5 and $2 million yourself alone. I never said anything about "success".

I believe I read where you claimed to have cleared $250K one year. Of all the idiots on here that claim that telesales can't/won't/doesn't work, which one of them has ever made that kind of annual income consistently writing in the field and/or as a GA?

Very few I would imagine

 

[jdeasy]

I was being serious. Y'all (you and other call center operators) do write tens of millions of ap every year with your call centers. It sounds like you write between $1.5 and $2 million yourself alone. I never said anything about "success".

I believe I read where you claimed to have cleared $250K one year. Of all the idiots on here that claim that telesales can't/won't/doesn't work, which one of them has ever made that kind of annual income consistently writing in the field and/or as a GA?

Very few I would imagine

Are you serious? That sound like the LH guy wanting to compare a company or agency production to a sole proprietor' production.

Then you got termed for persistency and call others idiots?

 

[cdsnuts]

So I am only successful if I write 10's of millions per year?


Not true and "you can't handle the truth" hehe.

Honestly you and 99.99% of agents can't do it cuz it's a grind for 8 hours per day.

Your in the phone giving it your A game 6.5 hours per day 5 days a week. No field agent does that.

Field sales you have massive amounts of down time, like driving to each appointment.

I sold term (mortgage protection) over the phone for three years successfully. This statement is absolutely correct to a tee. Phone sales is hard work. I thought it was going to be great never having to leave my house. It got old real fast. That home office started to feel suffocating. I'll take field work any day.

 

[jdeasy]

I sold term (mortgage protection) over the phone for three years successfully. This statement is absolutely correct to a tee. Phone sales is hard work. I thought it was going to be great never having to leave my house. It got old real fast. That home office started to feel suffocating. I'll take field work any day.

Me too. I had a referral call me today wanting coverage. I asked him the health questions and about smoking and he agreed to a $15,000 policy at $115/mo. I could have completed the whole thing by phone but I didn't want to.

I'm driving 90 miles one way to see him in the am and write the app. Or to get signatures anyway. The app is already filled out. I prefer to see the people and I also think there's a possibility of writing the wife while I'm there.

 

[cdsnuts]

Me too. I had a referral call me today wanting coverage. I asked him the health questions and about smoking and he agreed to a $15,000 policy at $115/mo. I could have completed the whole thing by phone but I didn't want to.

I'm driving 90 miles one way to see him in the am and write the app. Or to get signatures anyway. The app is already filled out. I prefer to see the people and I also think there's a possibility of writing the wife while I'm there.

I must admit....listening to you guys down south talk about how far you drive to work has really put things into perspective for me. I'm in NJ and fairly successful and usually don't have to ever drive more then 40 or so miles one way. If I do I whine about it.....no more. I've decided to branch out as a direct result of listening to guys talk about the distances they cover. It makes me realize what I have here. I'm actually going to start working the majority of my state now. Big things in 2015.

But yeah...there is just something about face to face that really cements the sale as opposed to doing it over the phone. What I found with phone work was that I really had to stay connected to the client with multiple phone calls to "stay in front of them." There is so much that is left out with phone work such as body language, reading the person and general vibe. To me it's just easier to drive to the house and spend the couple minutes with them. That small amount of time transfers so much important information.

 

[PA Bill]

I sold term (mortgage protection) over the phone for three years successfully. This statement is absolutely correct to a tee. Phone sales is hard work. I thought it was going to be great never having to leave my house. It got old real fast. That home office started to feel suffocating. I'll take field work any day.

I was trained by Senior Life's top agent here in Philly. He started in their phone operation (actually moved to work under Charlie Speller after leaving Pru) and it was soul sucking for him. He felt the same way you do. As for field sales? Never seen a guy with more passion for selling insurance in my life. He absolutely loves it. To thy own self be true, I guess.

 

[cdsnuts]

I was trained by Senior Life's top agent here in Philly. He started in their phone operation (actually moved to work under Charlie Speller after leaving Pru) and it was soul sucking for him. He felt the same way you do. As for field sales? Never seen a guy with more passion for selling insurance in my life. He absolutely loves it. To thy own self be true, I guess.

Some days when I'm working I just get blissed out for no apparent reason. Maybe it's because it's a beautiful day and I'm in my car blasting music rather then stuck under the humming of fluorescent lights. Maybe it's because I just nailed my first two appointments and my goal for the day is already met and I still have two or three stops left. To me it's just complete freedom. When am I gonna go home? When ever the hell I want.

 

[smokin goose]

Some days when I'm working I just get blissed out for no apparent reason. Maybe it's because it's a beautiful day and I'm in my car blasting music rather then stuck under the humming of fluorescent lights. Maybe it's because I just nailed my first two appointments and my goal for the day is already met and I still have two or three stops left. To me it's just complete freedom. When am I gonna go home? When ever the hell I want.

Amen brother .....................

 

[JoshC]

I must admit....listening to you guys down south talk about how far you drive to work has really put things into perspective for me. I'm in NJ and fairly successful and usually don't have to ever drive more then 40 or so miles one way. If I do I whine about it.....no more. I've decided to branch out as a direct result of listening to guys talk about the distances they cover. It makes me realize what I have here. I'm actually going to start working the majority of my state now. Big things in 2015.

But yeah...there is just something about face to face that really cements the sale as opposed to doing it over the phone. What I found with phone work was that I really had to stay connected to the client with multiple phone calls to "stay in front of them." There is so much that is left out with phone work such as body language, reading the person and general vibe. To me it's just easier to drive to the house and spend the couple minutes with them. That small amount of time transfers so much important information.

We drive further but generally in less traffic with cheaper gas and certainly not in the conditions you have to deal with on a regular basis. Plus we don't have to live in New Jersey.

Sorry man, had to.

 

[cdsnuts]

We drive further but generally in less traffic with cheaper gas and certainly not in the conditions you have to deal with on a regular basis. Plus we don't have to live in New Jersey.

Sorry man, had to.

You'd be so lucky to live here. I know you were joking based on your image of what NJ is, but this is a typical comment from some one who thinks NJ is represented by the small northern urban areas close to NY (think Soprano's). Every state has their urban areas, but for some reason people that have never been here think those areas are all it is. Let me edumacate you my Southern friend.....

It's called the Garden state for a reason....ever think of that? There are more horses in NJ then in Kentucky. The very north, west, east and south of the state are all rural and suburban areas. I NEVER sit in traffic when I'm working or any other time, for that matter. I drive long desolate stretches through the Pine barrens and farm land to go to my appointments. There is enough data here for me to never have to step foot in an urban area....ever. We have some of the best beaches on the East coast. I could go on, but you get the point.

When I do here that comment you made (always from southerners) it makes me cringe. If you actually saw where I lived and worked, it's beautiful.

Rant over.

btw....what are paying per gallon?