Why Are So Many Agents Lazy?

[Gooner]

For 18 years...$100,000 per year +....... Really???

Why is Gooner answering posted questions for you??? "Goals" ain't got nothing to do with this subject... we're talking "Made"!

Dammit, I was headed to bed and checked the stupid forum app.

I didn't know that you were directing the question to JG specifically, so sorry to interject into the thread on a public/open forum

***edit*** never mind to the rest of my babble

 

[Newby]

18 years straight......$100,000 +.....? If this is true you have me beat along with every professional salesman I've ever known, and I've had the opportunity to have known some very very good salesmen. So if this is true you are an Exceptional Salesman and I would like to meet you one day.

If you are shocked by this, you don't know many professional salespeople.

Sales is one of the highest paying professions. I don't know many people who take their sales jobs seriously that don't make over that. Many way over.

And in insurance, with the compounding effect of renewals it gets easier every year.

 

[Norwayguy]

Don't know about the other recruiters on the forum but it is my understanding that Scott and Travis do just that. They both work in the field, running leads every week.

I was speaking of the recruiters for the captives...They wax eloquently about how great the position is, how much money you make, how the company makes the job so easy. My question if its so great why are they recruiting and not working as an agent.

I was not speaking to those recruiters that actually produce.

 

[TwiLight]

I was speaking of the recruiters for the captives...They wax eloquently about how great the position is, how much money you make, how the company makes the job so easy. My question if its so great why are they recruiting and not working as an agent.

I was not speaking to those recruiters that actually produce.

I agree with your statement about pure recruiters. They don't produce and do not have a clue how to make a living in sales and are full of advice on how to do it. I would prefer an FMO/IMO to admit they are recruiters with no experience in selling so do not pretend to be an expert in sales. Admit that they have sales systems (There are many good ones out there) that can assist an agent and brag about the successes of their agent's success with their systems instead of false statements.

Many good FMO/IMO's that do this pay their agents as spokesman and have them at larger recruiting or conference events to speak to their success with the FMO/IMO. I tell you that if an Agent hears from an actual successful agent about the opportunities with the FMO/IMO directly and their success with them, the agent will know and more likely believe the claims from an FMO/IMO.

It amazes me at how many recruiters do not do this and could not sell out of a paper bag. I consider myself a salesperson first that got pushed into recruiting because of my sales experience and others wanting to learn from it. I believe Newby and Travis understand what I am talking about because I see they same experience and agent commitment to FEXcontracting as in mine. Only difference is that I have been in the business longer than them.

 

[houcoogster]

If you are shocked by this, you don't know many professional salespeople.

Sales is one of the highest paying professions. I don't know many people who take their sales jobs seriously that don't make over that. Many way over.

And in insurance, with the compounding effect of renewals it gets easier every year.

Newby, Have you made over 100k a year since you were 25? That's the point here. I know people that make over double that now but they had UPS and DOWNS along the way! I find it to be remarkable he did this at such a young age(25) and Maintained that income though all the economic turmoil of the past 18 years.

 

[TwiLight]

Newby, Have you made over 100k a year since you were 25? That's the point here. I know people that make over double that now but they had UPS and DOWNS along the way! I find it to be remarkable he did this at such a young age(25) and Maintained that income though all the economic turmoil of the past 18 years.

Why do you care so much about it. You will find those that make the Money rarely talk about it. Why give the IRS ammo?

 

[John Galt]

18 years straight......$100,000 +.....?

If this is true you have me beat along with every professional salesman I've ever known, and I've had the opportunity to have known some very very good salesmen.

So if this is true you are an Exceptional Salesman and I would like to meet you one day.

It is true. Ive been self employed pretty much my entire adult life other than a few years as a regional equipment sales manager and a 2 year contract as VP of sales and marketing for a large property maintenance company, had to turn them around quick. If you find the right product or service and know it and believe in it anyone can make $100k. But you have to work smart and hard.

And yes, I spent a ton of money on strippers, women (see what I did there - I seperated the 2 lol) and fast cars in my 20's and 30's and I blew the rest

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Why do you care so much about it. You will find those that make the Money rarely talk about it. Why give the IRS ammo?

Im not bragging just making a point, some of those years it was way over 100K...ok maybe thats bragging a little. I report all of my income

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Newby, Have you made over 100k a year since you were 25? That's the point here. I know people that make over double that now but they had UPS and DOWNS along the way! I find it to be remarkable he did this at such a young age(25) and Maintained that income though all the economic turmoil of the past 18 years.

Hey brother, I was extremely blessed at a young age to know that I did not want a lower middle class lifestyle. I was also smart enough to get into an industry, while very very hard, was very very profitable. Most who entered that industry saw a 95%-98% failure rate for new business. I was just too damned stubborn and made it work for me. I still have that business, it still pays me a nice fat ass check every month, I am transitioning into insurance and it is going pretty well.

As you mention the economic turmoil I can attest to the fact that while I watched a lot of friends and family go through a virtual crap storm of trouble I always had customers and contracts and always made money and a profit. It was not a glamorous industry far from it....and only until recently the financial crisis that brought the mortgage industry to its knees started to decrease the long term outlook of that industry and my business plans as it hit the commercial market in the last 2 to 3 years.

Id have to agree with Newby and others as well when they stated its really not a big deal to make 6 figs every year, I would consider it more of a big deal when someone is dedicated and works hard that doesnt hit that mark. Hope that helped.

 

[rousemark]

It is true. Ive been self employed pretty much my entire adult life other than a few years as a regional equipment sales manager and a 2 year contract as VP of sales and marketing for a large property maintenance company, had to turn them around quick. If you find the right product or service and know it and believe in it anyone can make $100k. But you have to work smart and hard.

And yes, I spent a ton of money on strippers, women (see what I did there - I seperated the 2 lol) and fast cars in my 20's and 30's and I blew the rest

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Im not bragging just making a point, some of those years it was way over 100K...ok maybe thats bragging a little. I report all of my income

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Hey brother, I was extremely blessed at a young age to know that I did not want a lower middle class lifestyle. I was also smart enough to get into an industry, while very very hard, was very very profitable. Most who entered that industry saw a 95%-98% failure rate for new business. I was just too damned stubborn and made it work for me. I still have that business, it still pays me a nice fat ass check every month, I am transitioning into insurance and it is going pretty well.

As you mention the economic turmoil I can attest to the fact that while I watched a lot of friends and family go through a virtual crap storm of trouble I always had customers and contracts and always made money and a profit. It was not a glamorous industry far from it....and only until recently the financial crisis that brought the mortgage industry to its knees started to decrease the long term outlook of that industry and my business plans as it hit the commercial market in the last 2 to 3 years.

Id have to agree with Newby and others as well when they stated its really not a big deal to make 6 figs every year, I would consider it more of a big deal when someone is dedicated and works hard that doesnt hit that mark. Hope that helped.

It is amazing that some people seem to think that "the economic turmoil" sank all boats. Many companies and individuals have thrived over the last 20 years..

I was talkign with a lady the other day and she was complaining that 'no one has jobs".. She is teaching school, her husband is an Industrial engineer employed with a automotive related industry.. Together they are making around 160K per year. Each of her two sons has a good job and her daughter is also a school teacher. Their spouses are also employed. In fact, she couldn't name one of her close friends that did not have a job... but "no one has a job" other than the 94% of the working population that is employed.

 

[houcoogster]

It is amazing that some people seem to think that "the economic turmoil" sank all boats.

Who said it "sank all boats"? Did it not sink any boats? Did some boats take on water? Ahh screw it ...I'm going fishin. Do whatever floats your boat.

 

[rousemark]

Who said it "sank all boats"? Did it not sink any boats? Did some boats take on water? Ahh screw it ...I'm going fishin. Do whatever floats your boat.

Glad I could remind you of what is important..